Wages have increased due to worker shortages, pushing entry-level jobs to $15 an hour or more. Off Topix is a well established general discussion forum that originally opened to the public way back in 2009! Have you conducted extensive tests to prove this theory? They can elect judges and other government officials, as well as veto legislation. They should receive no more than an average American gets. No extras. Similarly, Republicans who live in areas where the state minimum wage is $12 or higher are slightly more likely than those living in places where the $7.25 federal minimum wage applies to say they favor raising the federal minimum to $15 an hour (32% vs. 25%). People running for office must be able to think critically to come up with a solution when there is a problem. There are sharp partisan differences in opinions. You will face a lot of issues in our nation. Either that, or only those who are always wealthy become politicians. In the past politician have even gone without pay well i say they should stop spending our money on stupid unnecessary things like trips over seas. Politicians would never allow themselves to live in poverty and they know that minimum wage is garbage. I don't think politicians should be paid minimum wage necessarily, but rather an average of what their constituents earn. This petition will be shared with Rep Cunningham and other interest groups. In doing so, however, he has a go at politicians and their remuneration. Force them to live off minimum wage and watch how many of the scum leave. On one hand, that doubling increased the logarithm of the number of parties that field a candidate by 41% of a standard deviation, thereby providing the voters with a broader choice of political platforms, the researchers write. A pay raise may also be the reason for back pay. I wish there was a way to screen people. Maybe a salary increase would at least inspire politicians to work harder? Serving as a politician is supposed to be a service to your country. From April this year, the hourly rate for earners aged 21 to 2 is 9.18 an hour, up from 8.36. what kind of shit country does that? The problem would be situations like Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, who bought land, lobbied to build a highway near it, then sold it for three times what he bought it for when the highway bill went through. Half of Hispanic adults who back the $15 wage also express this view. And in other roles where the pay is typically less than $15 per hour, such as . Maybe by finding ways to lower cost. No politician should work for themselves. Lots of politicians already have money from their previous jobs as lawyers or private businessmen. Different jobs can be equally important for very different reasons. What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S. What the data says about abortion in the U.S. Are you in the American middle class? all-in-all, i'd be president for free, as long as i get the chance to serve my fellow man and to try to make things better for all, not for the few As I recall the ancient Roman Consuls weren't paid. Even to a dedicated public servant, lavish gifts from lobbyists will be a whole lot more persuasive when they are eating ramen noodles every night in the two bedroom apartment they share with four other people. By contrast, 36% of White adults who favor a $15 minimum wage say Congress should keep pressing for that amount. so i guess we should pay doctors only minimum wage because we want the doctors who want to do it PURELY for the fun amrite? Reblogged this on Ramblings of a now 60+ Female. but we would need to first get them in office, which no smart person will do. Got a burning unpopular opinion you want to share? I do still think that my salary change would work though. Should people be allowed to become millionaires? Jr. puts both feet in Mouth, This Aint Your Dads Republican Party Anymore, Bernie Sanders goes after the coolest capitalist of all, Elon Musk. The researchers constructed a variable to define shirkingnoting a members voting record as well as how often he or she signed the daily attendance register but then left without attending the legislative session. Listener. It's not like they're flipping burgers, guys. The current federal minimum wage is $7.25 an hour, though many states have higher minimum wages. Kicking your kid out as soon as they turn 18 is abusive. But they shouldnt be allowed to become millionaires and govern society. AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka and National Employment Law Project Director Christine Owens in a joint op-ed on Dec. 3, I do think we need to increase the minimum wage. They can seek the privileges of power and influence that come with political posts in government at their own expense if they want them. It is a subsidiary of The Pew Charitable Trusts. "The rules say you've got to make this much more than the person who's entered.". Force them to live off minimum wage and watch how many of the scum leave. They do it because they have to work and support their families, and most jobs will not pay you any more than that. Everyone who took part in this survey is a member of the Centers American Trends Panel (ATP), an online survey panel that is recruited through national, random sampling of residential addresses. Then again, intelligence is subjective. Like Jefferson, the city has faced an exodus of municipal workers and a slow down in hiring due to the economic fallout from the coronavirus pandemic. We provide a laid back atmosphere and our members are down to earth. But if you give them nothing, they will be able to sympathize and understand the problems of the people, especially the poor if they have experienced the reality of it. They have a special role to make our society a better place to live in. New Orleans pays city workers at least $15 per hour. If somehow the persons quality of life has skyrocketed after leaving office there should be a proper investigation as to how. Anyone pulling up in a BMW getting audited, they only ever fight for the people who pay them the most. Im not so sure a lot of them get that. This would also mean politicians would get into to the business for the correct reason. The point of an internship is to learn valuable skills. A majority of Black adults who favor a $15 standard (55%) say that if there is not sufficient support in Congress for that to pass, congressional leaders should continue to work for a $15 minimum wage even if no minimum wage increase becomes law this year. You say that no one in their right mind would work for minimum wage, but billions of people do it every day. I would say they should be payed the average income of there district. And how would there be any way of knowing theyre in it for the right reasons? Pay them with food and water and a cot in a FEMA trailer. The mayor has veto (can overrule other votes) authority over the council, which has legislative power. Could there be an alternative system of reward or payment for their services? That is the whole point. For the money of course. If politicians got paid minimum wage, I guarantee minimum wage would be a comfortable wage. I wrote this article after the tragic shooting in El Paso. If as a juror, if you were found to be financially invested in the outcome of a trial, you would be kicked off the jury. If you find these articles interesting, please consider a small donation to help support this site and my other activities on behalf of Scotland's independence Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Politicians who work in parliament can get free food. While many other people work using their physical strength daily at work, politicians spend most of their time in their office or attending meetings. If they are getting paid for their work, that is one of their motivations to serve their people better even if they are in a difficult situation. Tommy Sheridan writes eloquently and passionately in his column as he pleads the case for paying health and social care workers better. On Behalf of Gus and Millions Like Him Pay Our Carers Properly, Glittering generalities an unaskedquestions. But the increase didnt similarly influence the reelection decisions of higher-quality MEPs, who had better job prospects outside of politics. People with severe allergies shouldnt eat out, Vacations where you do things aren't enjoyable. Read more about the ATPs methodology. Having been raised in the British Virgin Islands, all I really want is to get back home. Like 200% of average or whatever. This just shows how, yes, people do good things all the time without lots of pay or gifts but even MORE people do good things if offered pay or gifts. Ghandi and Mother Theresa were shams. CreateDebate is a social debate community built around ideas, discussion and democracy. Imagine if that process of making politics more accessible had started a hundred years earlier. The Biden administration and many congressional Democrats favor increasing the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour from the current rate of $7.25 an hour, but the proposals fate in the Senate is uncertain. You need to possess qualities that will enable you to overcome the issues your country is facing. Tommy may have a point in relation to some of this. Accept Cookies. . Furthermore it would drastically shrink the number of people who run for elections in the exact opposite way you would likely hope for. Though, I agree that it would make it significantly worse. If you go somewhere housing is cheap, minimum wage is less to reflect that. No conclusion final. Thinker. Find out with our income calculator, Indias Sex Ratio at Birth Begins To Normalize. Our ELECTED need to see what we think of them collectively. Or just have a lot of politicians who are wealthy instead. And even so, most of them are zealots, not change makers. "[Martin Luther King, Jr.] would want us to celebrate him, his birth and his legacy by acting upon his agenda, by realizing the dream, by making the minimum wage a living wage, by having not just family and medical leave, but paid sick leave for our workers, [and] by having quality, affordable child care so that our families, the power of women can be unleashed in our economy and in our society. Rep. Nancy Pelosi on the 50th Anniversary of MLKs I Have a Dream speech. But since you like studies so much and not a debate on subjective shit, here's a study showing how people are more likely to donate their organs if they are offered money. with the raise of minimum wage, it won't exactly increase spending but just help with spending in very specific areas. Employers with tipped workers will have to pay $6 per hour beginning in May 2023, and $8 starting in July 2023. Being a politician does not require a specific degree or major. If they commit to the job of representing the electorate then that is what they should do. I think this would be a good way to make sure that people get into politics to make things change for the better. About four-in-ten (38%) say they oppose the proposal, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted April 5-11. We got payed next to nothing, yet the output was amazing. The mayor is the chief executive officer. Being a politician is a tough job that is why it also has a high level of security to ensure their safety well. The researchers consider the effects of a salary increase on some members of the European Parliament (MEPs). All scores are updated in real-time. According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, full-time elected lawmakers at the state level earn an average of $75,415 per year while part-timers earn $12,838 per year. In nursing assistant roles, where EPI reports the median pay is $14.26 per hour, women make up 88.9% of the workforce. I'll no longer go to Target to get my coolio shirts i'll have to stick to buying shit on the street (which sucks). Still, a majority of lower-income Republicans (54%) say they oppose such an increase. How much are politicians paid in your country? Some senators, including several Democrats, support a more modest increase in the wage. Lastly, congressional pay should be tied to the minimum wage. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Related post: When it comes to raising the minimum wage, most of the action is in cities and states, not Congress. We need to vote him out SC. If you wish to become a politician then you should be in there for the correct reason if this means that you have low pay then so be it. Heres whats going to happen: Theyre going to have to lay people off. Gov. You end up costing jobs from people who are at the bottom rung of the economic ladder. Rep. Paul Ryan on Feb. 13, A full days hard work should be enough to keep you and your family out of poverty. Why do we want to make it harder for small employers to hire people? House Speaker John Boehner on Feb. 14, The bottom has fallen out of Americas wage floor. Why? Do it for minimum wage. They find that a salary increase led to politicians with less education. They should be excellent in communications, management, leadership, and governance. For instance, Italian representatives received 144,084 per year, while Hungarian representatives earned a mere 10,080. People that are driven to make a difference do not need money to be motivated, just ask our teachers. The parish would need to spend another $8.4 million to address the resulting wage compression among workers already making more than $15 per hour, The Archer Group estimated. This way nearly all U.S. adults have a chance of selection. It is a commitment. [A]s we celebrate 75 years of the minimum wage, we must also recognize that it is no longer achieving its potential impact in our economy or for Americas working families. You seem to put way too much trust into these victims. User content, unless source quoted, licensed under a. A countrys political system reflects the peoples way of living. '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''. If you determine your own pay, your own benefits, when you work and how you work, then congratulations: You work for yourself. Every American deserves the chance to build a better life for his or her family and raising the minimum wage will provide that opportunity. Sen. Tom Harkin, HELP Committee chairman, in a POLITICO op-ed on June 24, I think it is inflationary. I can think of only one example of something that brought significant change almost overnight our public health services. (+1) 202-857-8562 | Fax We would only get people who actually want to better this country, not money grubbing turds. Or a politician school you had to pass, which taught things like sociology and philosophy. No attitude immutable. All we have is the IQ test, which kind of sucks. About three-quarters of Hispanic (76%) and Asian Americans (73%) also favor raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour, with 52% of Hispanics and 43% of Asians saying they strongly support the idea. You are using an out of date browser. But even so, all of the people you've mentioned were victims of injustices. while intrinsic value is important, in reality it doesn't go that far except for people who have no other options. This is a conditional yes. Answer: It can be. We want to demonstrate our commitment to your privacy. In fact, it may accomplish the opposite. To learn more about the CreateDebate scoring system, check out the, When you are ready to voice your opinion, use the. If you are ok with minimum wage caliber of candidates, ten sure, pay minimum wage. For this analysis, we surveyed 5,109 U.S. adults in April 2021. The case for paying health and social care workers a wage commensurate with the vital nature of the service they provide stands on its own merits. Unfortunately, the increase apparently did little to improve how much effort politicians put into their jobs. They work for minimum wage because they have to. Numbers, Facts and Trends Shaping Your World, When it comes to raising the minimum wage, most of the action is in cities and states, not Congress, Many U.S. workers are seeing bigger paychecks in pandemic era, but gains arent spread evenly, The U.S. differs from most other countries in how it sets its minimum wage, Most Americans support a $15 federal minimum wage, Two-thirds of Americans favor raising federal minimum wage to $15 an hour, Young adult households are earning more than most older Americans did at the same age. And, you're right. After 90 consecutive days of employment or the employee reaches 20 years of age, whichever comes first, the employee must receive a . And the evidence is overwhelmingly positive: Hiking the minimum wage has little or no adverse effect on employment while significantly increasing workers earnings. Paul Krugman in The New York Times on Dec. 2, We are proud to stand with the workers who continue to fight for an economy that works for everyone. But now I'm confused by what you're trying to point out. Obviously this will never happen, but I think it would be awesome. Next with the president is the vice president that earns $235,100 per year.A governor is the highest-ranking government official in a state. most corporations will miss out, and will have to raise their prices in order to keep up with the increased minimum wage. The country would probably save billions in tax dollars that could get us jobs for this failing economy or healthcare for the billions that cannot afford it and cannot get help from the failing Medicaid system. Parish Council member Byron Lee said paying parish workers a "livable" wage of $15 per hour is the "right thing to do" and will help the parish attract and retain its employees. The environment encompasses all living creatures on this planet. It last overhauled its pay plan in 2019. Doing so would generate increased competition between candidates, attract better applicants, and secure better politicians. But I have serious concerns about the dangers in undermining the general principle of paying elected representatives well while insisting that they earn their salary by doing the job to the best of their ability. At that point only established people who can rely on other incomes (e.g. This is a good point. as for minimum wage, i actually sort of like that since we are the ones paying for their salaries. Force them to work for minimum wage and you'll see that they just become more likely to accept bribes. Arguments with the highest score are displayed first. If being a politician is not paid at all, we will prevent greedy and selfish politicians from entering politics who only want monetary incentives and do not care about their people. However, it is a tough job. Argument replies (both in favor and in opposition) are displayed below the original argument. This website uses cookies to ensure the best user experience. Yes! This forces politicians to appeal to. While 87% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents say they favor increasing the wage to $15 an hour (including 61% who strongly favor it), 72% of Republicans and GOP leaners oppose the idea (including 45% who strongly oppose it). To function well, democracy requires participation and therefore accessibility at all levels and in all its aspects. ), they will no way want to live on $6.55/hour. A narrow majority of these Americans (54%) say leaders should focus on passing an increase to the wage even if it may be significantly less than $15 an hour, while 43% say the priority should be to work to raise the hourly minimum wage to $15 even if no increase makes it into law this year.. In the United States, politicians can work in the legislative, executive, or judicial branches of government. Some of them receive tons of gifts from the people who admire them. Gov. It would be almost impossible to measure who is smarter. Sign and share if you believe that our elected should be paid what they think its ok to pay us. Minimum wage should be enough that anyone can afford at least basic shelter and necessities with a little room for saving or emergency expenses. Politicians should get paid minimum wage. Politicians will raise the minimum wage to whatever they are comfortable being paid, how many people would lose their jobs if minimum wage was raised to $50/hr. Half of our congresspeople are millionaires, three of those assholes sold hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of stock before the market could crash, When running for office they must divulge to the public, There needs to be a limit on how much money any individual is allowed to donate to a campaign. or not at all:) Anonymous Coward User ID: 76122415 United Kingdom 06/25/2018 03:09 AM Report . As for pedophiles, i already made the point. 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